The inside scoop on the Pickens Plans

T. Boone Pickens, a major player in the oil game is admitting America is addicted to oil and is deploying a plan called the Pickens Plan to layout the foundation of America's energy future. You can learn more about the pickens plan here:

http://www.pickensplan.com/

What do you think? Can we turst this oil man? Is this not the same invididual that got american hooked on oil in the first place? What are the pros and cons of his plan?

please discuss!

Just the fact that he advocates natural gas powered vehicles is enough to discredit him in my eyes.

Why?  Just curious.

I feel like Pickens is by no means a martyr -- he's going after wind/natural gas because he believes there is a huge buck to be made.  Whatever his motivation, I'm glad for the PR and actually funds he's putting into getting these alternative energies into motion.....

I don't agree with him on natural gas for some of the same reasons I'm not big on hydrogen.  There's a lack of fueling infrastructure, and the current natural gas vehicle (Honda Civic GX) is roughly equal in environmental impact to the Civic hybrid and Prius, but is more expensive and less convenient to refuel.  Plus one of the most important points is that natural gas is a fossil fuel and limited resource, and one which we don't have large reserves of.  I recall reading that our natural gas production peaked a few decades ago.

Although while I don't agree with the natural gas aspect of his plan, I don't agree that it discredits him either.

I certainly like the wind power aspect of his plan.  He makes some very good points that there's a lot of wind available in the midwest that we're not exploiting.

Natural gas is a hydrocarbon that produces CO2 when combusted. There isn't enough to go around (certainly for powering all cars in America) and it's not sustainable. His plan is half-a** ;)

Edited by petera650 - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:22 GMT

 Just saw this tv ad paid for by (and starring) T. Boone Pickens.  He's pushing this pretty strongly, eh?  Check it out....

A really interesting article by Joseph Romm today on Pickens' internal conflict.  He's a conservative who gives a lot of campaign contributions to Republicans (including the maximum to James 'Oil Man Global Warming Denial Propagandist' Inhofe), while these same Republicans block the renewable energy tax credits that would help fund the wind projects that are the cornerstone of the Pickens plan.

A billionaire from Texas supporting Republicans denying Global Warming? Wake me up when you have some real news, Dan :P

I read that Pickens owns a crap load of natural gas interests...

edited because I forgot that swearing is not allowed

That he does, which is no doubt the reason it plays such a major role in the Pickens Plan.

A wolf does not change into a sheep, at least for real. An oil exec is not going to give access to free energy. Search youtube for "Truth about Pickens Plan" that suggests he will set a few money losing windmill in order to get land rights which will really be for running a water line to drain off and steal our mid west aquifers and pipe it south. Ordinarily, he would not get the rights to run the pipe, hence, the windmill scam.

I hope I'm wrong becuase if I were King, our lands would be covered by windmills and solar farms in our deserts, all to power our homes and EV's. It matters not that this is not cost effective, because the goal is to deprive the mideast of petrodollars. It's national security, just like the Manhatten Project was, which nobody argued should turn a profit.

Exactly because it's a national security issue we are going to see action. This isn't about being green (as in environment) or green (as in dollars). It's about our survival.

Whoa, hadn't heard about that possibility at all. I find it a little hard to believe though that one would be able to be that vague/mis-leading on the land-use permits.

As for the decrease dependency on foreign oil - here here!