I use Miessence Products on my skin and body , and also use the Wholefood supplements , they are wonderful. No chemicals , no preservatives. Has anybody ever tried them?
Hi, I have not tried the Miessence one's myself. I use the Dr.Ben Kim 100% Whole Food supplements as they use premium ingredients, a lot of herbs and sea vegetables and I find they work very effectively. I find they are a little more cost effective as well.
Good to know another brand works well though!
Hi, I have not tried the Miessence one's myself. I use the Dr.Ben Kim 100% Whole Food supplements as they use premium ingredients, a lot of herbs and sea vegetables and I find they work very effectively. I find they are a little more cost effective as well.
Good to know another brand works well though!
I am sure it is a wonderful suplement. However ,when it is Certified Organic, I can be assured of the product. It also has all 13 probiotic strains with their foodtypes in this formula. There is no other Wholefood supplement this good on the market. It is called In-liven. Read up on it. www.michelleorganics.mionegroup.com
I checked it out. Still it only has a fraction of the ingredients and not enough that I would consider it the only thing I would need to take. Dr.Ben Kim has probiotics as well and certified organic or not, I still get more for my money with the alternative.
You are correct. In-Liven is not meant to replace all your supplements. It is a great product on it's own, but is not meant to replace a multi-vitamin.
However, the good news is that ONE Group (makers of InLiven) will be coming out with a whole range of certified organic whole food supplements in the close future.
Has anyone heard of New Chapter or Country Life (found in health food stores)? They make a great mostly all organic whole food supplement. Your daily multi.
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I checked it out. Still it only has a fraction of the ingredients and not enough that I would consider it the only thing I would need to take. Dr.Ben Kim has probiotics as well and certified organic or not, I still get more for my money with the alternative.
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
You are correct. In-Liven is not meant to replace all your supplements. It is a great product on it's own, but is not meant to replace a multi-vitamin.
However, the good news is that ONE Group (makers of InLiven) will be coming out with a whole range of certified organic whole food supplements in the close future.
Has anyone heard of New Chapter or Country Life (found in health food stores)? They make a great mostly all organic whole food supplement. Your daily multi.
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I checked it out. Still it only has a fraction of the ingredients and not enough that I would consider it the only thing I would need to take. Dr.Ben Kim has probiotics as well and certified organic or not, I still get more for my money with the alternative.
I disagree, I it IS a "MULTI-VITAMIN", if you want o call it that. I have been taking it for 4 yrs.... and nothing else but fish oils..... I take it twice a day. My bone density tests were incredible.
The debate is HOT in heaah! In Liven all the way!! I think this product is in a class of it's own at the moment. The man who created it has been working on it for three decades and was the first to market with a truly viable probiotic supplement. It is now supercharged with goodness to a degree that you have to go into a bunch of biology to really appreciate. Thanks for spreading the good word allorganic.
Let's put this to rest.
1st off, I use and Love inliven.
2nd I've personally met with Narelle Chenery (1 of the 3 co-owners of ONE Group) and she even states that it is not a multi-vitamin and it is not meant to replace a multi-vitamin.
ONE Group is currently making a wholefood multi-vitamin to expand the MiVitality line.
I am the dept. manager at a health food store and am VERY aware of nutrition and nutritional products. I've been in the biz for almost a decade now.
Thanks.
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
Organicgal
I guess we can agree to disagree........ But I to have talked to Narelle and Czerral personally, in fact I e-mail Czerral on a regular basis. Here is what he states on In-liven being a Multi-vitamin.
I talked with him yesterday.
i'm not trying to be rude or bossy sounding...please don't take it that way... but yes, i'm very much aware of the difference between conventional (synthetic and/or chemically isolated) vitamins vs. whole food and whole food supplements. like i tried to politely tell you, i've been in the biz for many years.
my one on one meeting with narelle was in miami on may 21st, so this is the most up to date info i have straight from her. in-liven is very much superior to so many products out there, but directly from narelle herself, it does not stand on it's own, that's why they are releasing more products to the line. why would they duplicate themselves? have you known them to do that for any other products? no, they haven't. i think you are mis-understanding what Czerral is saying.
true, you shouldn't even take a non-wholefood supplement they do very little if anything in our systems. however, if you are taking in-liven, it is suitable to still take your whole food multi-vitamin (there are many on the market that are organic and "alive" and food state) that compliments the use of in-liven. i'm just trying to explain to you that in-liven is not meant to replace those types of real wholefood multi-vitamins. Czerral is trying to convey to you that in-liven does replace and is superior to conventional/synthetic multi-vitamins. He's not telling you to stop all other supplementation. No where do I see that in your quote of his nor does he ever say that in his training session you can find in your backoffice. you also have to remember most people do not eat a proper diet and their diets gravely lack proper nutrients, in which in-liven does not fully recover.
Also keep in mind, inliven has a broad spectrum of nutrients, not a full spectrum, there's a difference. If it was a true multi-vitamin they'd call it "in-liven probiotic multivitamin", not just probiotic.
In all fairness, it's a probiotic, superfood, with awesome LIVE ingredients, but not a full spectrum of what we need daily, just a whole heck of a lot, and great quality at that and the best thing about food state is that you can't o.d. on it. ;-) I'm a firm believer that everyone should be taking in-liven. i'm not telling anyone not to. forget commissions, if i could get everyone i know on in-liven i would be the happiest person in the world.
like you said, we can agree to disagree. this is my understanding of what i've read, and listened to. if we all deciphered things the same way, there wouldn't be so many branches within the same religion. it's all about interpurtation and this is how i've interpurted all my extensive training and research.
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
Hi
Yes, I understand You and I understand Czerral. What I am conveying is that I have found through my experience and MANY others that eating a good diet and taking In-liven has helped them..... "Without" a wholefood Multi.
Thank-you for your comments and am looking forward to the next supplement line~ !
yes, a proper diet is key. sadly the majority does not eat a truly healthful diet. Let's you and I make a crusade to get people eating true healthful foods. Yippie!
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Hi
Yes, I understand You and I understand Czerral. What I am conveying is that I have found through my experience and MANY others that eating a good diet and taking In-liven has helped them..... "Without" a wholefood Multi.
Thank-you for your comments and am looking forward to the next supplement line~ !
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
Organicgal
Can I ask you your "supplement" regimen?
New Chapter Womens whole food Multi or Country Life's Whole Food Multi (which ever is on sale and which will be replaced by ONE Groups multi when availble)
In-Liven Probiotic
Macca (finally got my menstrual cycle in check)
New Chapter Whole Food Calcium at night to help me sleep and because I don't do a lot of dairy
Flax Seed Oil for joint health (i played a lot of soccer back in the day and now i bike a lot).
That's it. ;-)
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Organicgal
Can I ask you your "supplement" regimen?
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
Wonderful!! I also , do not eat or drink dairy. I get most of my dairy from lots of dark green vegetables. I juice daily. You still take extra flax too :-) , In-Liven has that in it. It also has lots of ingredients in it that provide lots of calcium. That is all that my daughter takes and her nails have improved in length and hardness.
Do you have any idea when the "Multi" will be included in ONEgroups Vitality line?
The straight up oil is for the lubrication of the joints, you don't get enough oil from In-Liven. I have had major problems with my joints since I was young, so the extra oil in my diet is very beneficial. Their's a difference between flax meal and flax oil for joint health.
Because I eat more fruits than leafy veggies (i'm a fruit-aholic), I supplement with calcium and it helps me sleep, plus I am outside a lot and loose a lot of calcium (and other essential minerals) from sweating so much. I feel my calcium in take is just where I need it via In-Liven and my additional (small) supplementation.
Our soils are soooo depleted of minerals that supplementation is almost necessary in this day in age, even when eating an extremely "helthly" organic diet.
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Wonderful!! I also , do not eat or drink dairy. I get most of my dairy from lots of dark green vegetables. I juice daily. You still take extra flax too :-) , In-Liven has that in it. It also has lots of ingredients in it that provide lots of calcium. That is all that my daughter takes and her nails have improved in length and hardness.
Do you have any idea when the "Multi" will be included in ONEgroups Vitality line?
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
Because I eat more fruits than leafy veggies (i'm a fruit-aholic), I supplement with calcium and it helps me sleep, plus I am outside a lot and loose a lot of calcium (and other essential minerals) from sweating so much. I feel my calcium in take is just where I need it via In-Liven and my additional (small) supplementation.
Calcium aids in sleep? Interesting! Please share more...
Remember the old school days of drinking a warm glass of milk before bed?
Yes, taking your calcium supplement at night is more healthful in many ways. and take it seperate from a multi because cal and iron bind together. also take it seperate from high doeses of fiber.
1. your body absorbs cal. easier at night. (cal is a large mineral and difficult to absorb) taking it when your body is at rest leaves your body the resources it needs to work on the cal.
2. cal relaxes muscles (prevents cramps too)
3. calms the mind from nervous behavior and depression
4.cal helps the brain use tryptophan, making it produce melatonin faster, (melatonin helps our body's rythm for dark and light) which relaxes our brains to enter deep sleep.
Activities like heavy excersising can slow the absorption of cal, but if you excersise like an average person you will actually promote absorption.
cal should only be taken in small dosages as the body can't absorb more than 500mg at a time. so mega dosing at night is not the key. eating a strong healthful diet that contains food calcium through out the day and then a small dose at night should be sufficient for most people. calcium is part of the minerals we need to replace after profusely sweating. that's why you see it in so many fitness drinks. also, if you drink a lot of water that is super filtered/reverse osmosis, or distilled, that is DEAD water. your body needs live water. when you drink dead water, your body will leach the minerals from your muscles and bones to rebalance the water's ph in your system. you can add minerals to your dead water to revitalize it befor you drink. a great product that has no taste is called Trace Minerals by liqumins
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Because I eat more fruits than leafy veggies (i'm a fruit-aholic), I supplement with calcium and it helps me sleep, plus I am outside a lot and loose a lot of calcium (and other essential minerals) from sweating so much. I feel my calcium in take is just where I need it via In-Liven and my additional (small) supplementation.
Calcium aids in sleep? Interesting! Please share more...
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
I am so excited about the new vitamn line coming out by In-Liven. I can't wait to get my hands on them! Tnanks for all the information!
Organicgirl
I have gotten a reply from Narelle and it doesn't sound like any "Multi" will be coming out any time soon.......I definetly agree with her, I don' beleive in Multi-type vitamins either........ all from FOODS like she says.......
I wouldn't consider In-Liven as a multi-vitamin. Having said that, I don't take them myself... I prefer to get my nutrients from organic food sources, and don't beleive synthetic multi-vitammins are that beneficial, or absorbed and utilised by the body... I think they just make expensive wee.
We will definitely be developing more nutritional products. Not along the lines of 'vitamins' per se, but more along the lines of foods we need for optimal health and vitality. An organic vitamin c supplement will probably be in the mix.. and I'm also looking at ways to get other necessary vitamins we need from organic food sources.
Regards
Narelle
I am, and have always been, in agreement that synthetic vitamins are crap. I never said that they were good. It seems you just keep going in circles. I am confused. You've not yet to prove that In-Liven is a multi-vitamin or that it can replace a full regimen for common people.
I believe it is an amazing product, but for the average person who does not eat healthfully, it is not going to provide everything. Eating all organic, whole foods is still a small subculture here in America. In-liven, alone, will produce an amazing difference in anybody who isn't eating healthfully, this is true.
For the average person, they first need to work on eating more whole foods anyways. With that being said, I still don't see where anyone from ONE Group has said In-Liven replaces all supplementation and that it's a multi. It's a probiotic. And Narelle's reply just confirms what I've been saying, it's not a multi. Narelle eats much cleaner and healthfully than any average American. So she does get her nutrients the correct way. But in reality and on average, the "normal" folks, do need to supplement their diets. Whether it's lack of wholesome food, or lack of organic food, or both, supplementation is necessary in this day and age of processed foods that travel a zillion miles and get heated in a microwave...all this adds up to detrimental nutrient loss.
IMO, it's not fair to tell people that In-liven is all they need without knowing their needs and true health issues. For you, you take extra fish oil. For someone else they may need extra B's, DHA, etc. because they are pregnant. For someone else that can't take high amounts of K, they may want to research the product more. That's where I'm going with this.
I also never claimed to know a date on the expansion of the MiVitality line, just that it was in the works and they want to do so. I was given no dates or estimates, nor did I hint at that in my above replies. I only know that they are expanding it with whole food supplementational products, focusing on nutrition from whole living foods.
Thanks for posting Narelle's reply.
Again, please don't get me wrong, I strongly believe In-liven should be a part of everyone's diet. But to call it a multi-vitmain or the only thing someone needs is not correct. It may be all you need, or all Narelle needs, but not the average consumer. There are many people out there that need more than just In-Liven in their diet to return to proper health. In-Liven is an amazing start on that journey, no doubt.
Susanna Tocco ~
Esthetician, Massage Thereapist, Eco-Advisor & Qigong Instructor
Website: Healing With Organics
Organicgirl
I have gotten a reply from Narelle and it doesn't sound like any "Multi" will be coming out any time soon.......I definetly agree with her, I don' beleive in Multi-type vitamins either........ all from FOODS like she says.......
I wouldn't consider In-Liven as a multi-vitamin. Having said that, I don't take them myself... I prefer to get my nutrients from organic food sources, and don't beleive synthetic multi-vitammins are that beneficial, or absorbed and utilised by the body... I think they just make expensive wee.
We will definitely be developing more nutritional products. Not along the lines of 'vitamins' per se, but more along the lines of foods we need for optimal health and vitality. An organic vitamin c supplement will probably be in the mix.. and I'm also looking at ways to get other necessary vitamins we need from organic food sources.
Regards
Narelle
Pay no mind to Allorganic. She has no idea what she is talking about. In-Liven is NOT a multi vitamin. We need to supplement with something else. Thank you for listening....Organic4Life
